Guest Triszin Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 A dude on FB was saying KT pre order end of July. So yeah I expect wolves and Orks August. AoS might take the July slot. There are still lots of kits to be released for AoS. Nighthaunt and stormcast multi part units. Since SW/Orks aren't even mentioned for July WD that automatically pushes them to at least August. Unreal. Blatantly unfair for us to have to keep playing using index lists against armies that have had their books for over a year now. I'll be sad if my guesstimated timeline is closer to the truth. but I tried to be realistic ( in the sense of, if orks are getting a massive release, they'll have 4-7 weeks of releases. and if wolves are getting russ, it'll be near the end of november/early december to make him a mega holiday seller) + i tried to give some time for a new warzone campaign to be introduced and start to play out Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/11/#findComment-5114298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulwyf Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I will be more than sad brother, I will be furious. Our army isn't even playable in competitive meta and has not been for several months. I know the few SW players in my area have shelved their armies until we get a codex and I don't blame them. I only bring mine out for friendly games. There's just no point wasting your time and frankly throwing off a tourney by giving your opponent a guaranteed win against our codex less Wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/11/#findComment-5114305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I will be more than sad brother, I will be furious. Our army isn't even playable in competitive meta and has not been for several months. I know the few SW players in my area have shelved their armies until we get a codex and I don't blame them. I only bring mine out for friendly games. There's just no point wasting your time and frankly throwing off a tourney by giving your opponent a guaranteed win against our codex less Wolves. I have put my wolves on hold until the dex comes out. While sad for the wait, so long as when the codex arrives it is good, and fair, but also arrives with new things, rules and model waise I will be more than happy. I always viewed and was under the assumption, that the last few codexes being released for 40k were going to be hand in hand with waves of releases. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/11/#findComment-5114315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Cmon my dudes I have a codex and my army is shelved. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/11/#findComment-5114317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Cmon my dudes I have a codex and my army is shelved. You are almost there! Hold the line! I mean, the wolves initially waited what, 12 years for an update? I put my stuff on hold, cause i want to build my other units correctly, and im doing so crazy stuff with my tau 4th spehere breakaway auxillary fleet. =) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/11/#findComment-5114321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I'm not shelving anyone! I will be forged in the fire of this drought and emurge (at some point apparently next flippin' year) a master of the murdermake. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/11/#findComment-5114327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 actually, i did just start on my first blizzard great axe dread. with contemptor legs and a boxy goodness torso Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/11/#findComment-5114332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulwyf Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Cmon my dudes I have a codex and my army is shelved. You are almost there! Hold the line! I mean, the wolves initially waited what, 12 years for an update? I put my stuff on hold, cause i want to build my other units correctly, and im doing so crazy stuff with my tau 4th spehere breakaway auxillary fleet. =) I think it was 10 years. I started playing SW as soon as they were playable as separate from SM back when I was a much younger pup. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/11/#findComment-5114333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 actually, i did just start on my first blizzard great axe dread. with contemptor legs and a boxy goodness torso Codex is release "blizzard dread increased by 50 points" I know people are saying August for Ork and SW's. However both are expecting a large release. I don't think GW would release both in one month, if they are large releases. So I expect one being released in August (maybe) and the other in September. Unless we want to wait all this time for a codex, dice, and Primaris upgrade is all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/11/#findComment-5114368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gherrick Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Ork's need a major release...we just need our damn codex and a couple upgrade sprues for primaris and helfrost (ideally). I'd be happy with just the codex now, and have any new models/upgrades released closer to Christmas. Russ is in the solid "nice to have", not a "must". I cannot understand why GW is delaying the remaining codexes at this point. Hell, GW needs to re-release some of the early codexes with significant overhauls (GK is a prime candidate). I'm most worried for a repeat of the tail end of 7e, where GW releases a major update for SW/Chaos, only to have it be obsolete in just a couple months (8e wasn't that far away, so IMO it was a pure money grab). A friend got me the collectors edition of that, and it was 90% crap (the wulfen dice included were completely unusable). I ended up only ever using the one small booklet with the formations, and the lore book included was fairly meh. I felt so bad, too; it was not a cheap gift. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/11/#findComment-5114448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Have to agree, especially since most of it was daemons and 1ksons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/11/#findComment-5114459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Yea they sold ALL of the landspeedersand drop pods with that book. Shelf ornaments now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/11/#findComment-5114463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Dan Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 I am not expecting a large release anymore or even a medium size release. We probably get the standard primaris conversion kit and that's it. Which is disappointing. But we have a large range as it is. And we did just get Wulfen not too long ago. I really just want a neat Leman Russ model that doesn't have the FW's awkward pose. My wishlist at the moment is a increasing parity between units and making us competitive. Although GW doesn't know how to make marines competitive. My worry is we are going to be in similar power level to DA and BA (BA get some play) and struggle as a mono-faction. Then we end up at the back of the line for a future update. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/11/#findComment-5114483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gherrick Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 I did hear an interesting rumor that our chapter tactic will be a form of countercharge (where our units will be able to charge on the opponents turn), although the specifics are still lacking to gauge just how useful that will be. Even if we get something like that as a strategem, it might allow us to have an assault-focused list that is actually effective. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/11/#findComment-5114488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dienekes96 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 It was nine years. 2000 was the 3rd edition release. 2009 was the 5th edition release. No 4th edition release. I felt every one of those years. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/11/#findComment-5114508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 I did hear an interesting rumor that our chapter tactic will be a form of countercharge (where our units will be able to charge on the opponents turn), although the specifics are still lacking to gauge just how useful that will be. Even if we get something like that as a strategem, it might allow us to have an assault-focused list that is actually effective. Interesting idea. I wonder how that would work in practice? Give every unit Heroic Intervention? Works well when you want to dare the enemy to charge you but in many cases it could just end up reducing our firepower in the following turn as more of our unit are stuck in CC. 8th is still primarily a shooty edition in my experience. Also this proposal (while fluffy to some extent) would not help us one jot against gunline armies. I would rather see that ability as a Stratagem to be honest as it is too situational to be useful much of the time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/11/#findComment-5114589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 I did hear an interesting rumor that our chapter tactic will be a form of countercharge (where our units will be able to charge on the opponents turn), although the specifics are still lacking to gauge just how useful that will be. Even if we get something like that as a strategem, it might allow us to have an assault-focused list that is actually effective. Interesting idea. I wonder how that would work in practice? Give every unit Heroic Intervention? Works well when you want to dare the enemy to charge you but in many cases it could just end up reducing our firepower in the following turn as more of our unit are stuck in CC. 8th is still primarily a shooty edition in my experience. Also this proposal (while fluffy to some extent) would not help us one jot against gunline armies. I would rather see that ability as a Stratagem to be honest as it is too situational to be useful much of the time. in my mind that rule just became. 1 cp countercharge. roll a 2d6 charge roll against any unit shooting at you right now Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/11/#findComment-5114623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Ah, now if we get to charge in response to enemy shooting, that would be a bit more interesting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/11/#findComment-5114634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 And very Black Templar-ish Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/11/#findComment-5114635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 And very Black Templar-ish Baby blue is the new black Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/11/#findComment-5114653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 And that sounds like a new Netflix show :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/11/#findComment-5114657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Sete is a Black Templars Sergeant with his relic power sword and storm shield when his gene-seed is investigated and found to be a Space Wolf. Set in his ways, he is ordered to return his gene-seed father's chapter, the Space Wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/11/#findComment-5114665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulwyf Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 I did hear an interesting rumor that our chapter tactic will be a form of countercharge (where our units will be able to charge on the opponents turn), although the specifics are still lacking to gauge just how useful that will be. Even if we get something like that as a strategem, it might allow us to have an assault-focused list that is actually effective. Interesting idea. I wonder how that would work in practice? Give every unit Heroic Intervention? Works well when you want to dare the enemy to charge you but in many cases it could just end up reducing our firepower in the following turn as more of our unit are stuck in CC. 8th is still primarily a shooty edition in my experience. Also this proposal (while fluffy to some extent) would not help us one jot against gunline armies. I would rather see that ability as a Stratagem to be honest as it is too situational to be useful much of the time. Completely agree. We need something to help us in assault like free advance and charge for all infantry and dreads or no overwatch on charges. Something that specifically helps you against shooting lists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/11/#findComment-5114749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 the wolf pack stratagem spend 1 CP at the beginning of the charge phase and select a single enemy unit Your opponent may only overwatch a single unit that declares a charge against the selected enemy unit. All other units that declared a charge against the same unit ignore overwatch from the selected unit Not game breaking but would give us a useful tool and be thematic. The last few SW novels I read emphasize how ferocity and berserk charges were used to break superior gun lines and the first rank paid the price Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/11/#findComment-5114760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gherrick Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Maybe a morale test between charging unit and charged unit. A success denies overwatch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349531-codex-next-week/page/11/#findComment-5114878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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