Chapter Master Valrak Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 No worries, it's all fun and games to me HolyPestilience, Warmaster1988 and apologist 1 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmaster1988 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 (edited) Sorry, Epic is just an special and delicate spot for me... EPIC HH would be the ultimate Warhammer Game for me! I'm also an "Imperial Fists enjoyer" since that IF Space Marines vs Orks Battle Report in a mid 90s White Dwarf and I like your Streams. Edited April 14, 2023 by Warmaster1988 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spessmarine Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 On 4/10/2023 at 7:07 PM, Noserenda said: I really think the HH BFG rumours have always been wishlisting as most other systems from SG have gone with the 30k setting to save on sprues. I think it would definitely be an even worse choice than epic 30k given how the original cruiser sprues so cleverly covered half the fleets in one small frame and it would eliminate the difference between Chaos, Mech, Marine and Navy fleets with them all being together in one list. Cant lie that i would love a complete set of the various Glorianas though, even in resin. Though i think most of them have cool ass 3d print versions out there already. Given how GW released Warcry with like 12 different chaos barbarian warbands you can't help but wonder, I don't mind Warcry exists, but if you can release that many flavours of barbarians is 40k AT/BF really that big of a gamble? Not like you'd need multiple options for something like GSC. Imperials, Chaos, Orks, Eldar and you are good to go, more can come later. Noserenda and Allart01 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcomet Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 17 minutes ago, spessmarine said: Given how GW released Warcry with like 12 different chaos barbarian warbands you can't help but wonder, I don't mind Warcry exists, but if you can release that many flavours of barbarians is 40k AT/BF really that big of a gamble? Not like you'd need multiple options for something like GSC. Imperials, Chaos, Orks, Eldar and you are good to go, more can come later. I also think it a poor excuse. And anything set in the 40k universe would outsell anything AoS or HH by a considerable margin. I think it is more a matter of overall manufacturing and logistical issues that stop them from doing 40k Epic and BFG. Warmaster1988, ZeroWolf and Noserenda 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Yeah i think they are often a bit half hearted with specialist game releases compared to the box game studio, well, i think that internal structure has shifted a bit recently but the point stands. Some combination of worrying about sales cannibalisation and lack of faith quite often holds them back in various ways. Except Necromunda :P though to be fair even that had a fairly rocky launch i think. eyedrops 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroWolf Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 I think Blood Bowl fared quite well, might not get new teams constantly but then again, I don't think it needed it. Some debate I've seen regarding Epic does talk about fear of cannibalising sales from 40k (for some odd reason, i don't believe it for a second). Over on Dakka someone said they'd believe more that the Old World would come out first over Epic (reasoning I believe was so that OW would take sales away from AoS 4th edition, and so that Epic wouldn't take away from 10th). Noserenda and Warmaster1988 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Blood bowl definitely did well (As did Necromunda once they got enough gangs out) and made plastics for the other games possible. It also had the advantage of supporting all the old teams well from the off though, even if they didnt get new teams right away and that kept all the old players, or new players wanting something different happy. Magos Takatus and ZeroWolf 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmaster1988 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Blood Bowl even got a "second Edition" (if you want to call the Editions after 2016 1st & 2nd Editions). Let's see if they give us a little Teaser for EPIC with nothing certain at Warhammer Fest..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrox Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 I think we'll get a tease, perhaps just the logo, or maybe a silhouette of a tiny marine. Warmaster1988 and firestorm40k 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmaster1988 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) I'm sorry if AT would disappear, but Epic would be the reason for me to return to a GW Game and give them Money. 3D Printing is nice but I prefer plastic over Resin. Edited April 23, 2023 by Warmaster1988 ZeroWolf 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroWolf Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 Its hard to say if AT would dissappear completely. The best option would to have it be part of epic for people who wish to only do Titans and Knights. How they would accomplish this though is something I don't know at this point. We often get rumours from 40k playtesters, but for Epic (a game rumoured to be out this year) we don't have anything, so no clue on how the game will play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcomet Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, ZeroWolf said: Its hard to say if AT would dissappear completely. The best option would to have it be part of epic for people who wish to only do Titans and Knights. How they would accomplish this though is something I don't know at this point. We often get rumours from 40k playtesters, but for Epic (a game rumoured to be out this year) we don't have anything, so no clue on how the game will play. Do they even have out of house playtesters anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Redcomet said: Do they even have out of house playtesters anymore Reading the reviews of the campaign compendium, and the AT Strats PDF that dropped on Friday, without rewriting the strats to match the existing FAQs on those strats, I'm not even convinced they have people who play AT IN house. Lexington 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 This is probably the best news I've heard hobby wise this year. I will absolutely buy this game. Something about the scale is just so awesome and I already have a whole bunch of titans :D Warmaster1988 and ZeroWolf 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroWolf Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 36 minutes ago, Marshal Rohr said: This is probably the best news I've heard hobby wise this year. I will absolutely buy this game. Something about the scale is just so awesome and I already have a whole bunch of titans :D Let's see when it materialises first. I believe its being made but its the matter of when we'll all get our mitts on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 On 4/10/2023 at 10:43 PM, Orange Knight said: Battlefleet Gothic should not be a Heresy game. Undeniably true in that the Gothic War happened a very long time after the Heresy. In terms of bringing the game back to the tabletop, I think the Heresy is a perfect starting point. Only loyalist and traitor fleets ever got plastic support in the original anyway, and they could quite easily expand from 30k to 40k in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmaster1988 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 Wouldn't wonder if Epic will be just a Starter Set and few Boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Warmaster1988 said: Wouldn't wonder if Epic will be just a Starter Set and few Boxes. I can see it mostly being boxes Eg starter box is marines v marines Then guard box (their tanks would be popular) Ork box etc Maybe versus boxes with 2 armies and cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Sorry if I'm failing to follow the plot, but AT isnt getting squatted is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmaster1988 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 7 hours ago, Dark Shepherd said: I can see it mostly being boxes Eg starter box is marines v marines Then guard box (their tanks would be popular) Ork box etc Maybe versus boxes with 2 armies and cards As mentioned many Times, it looks like (based on the rumors) that it will be set in the HH. Wouldn't expect any Orks for this setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tychobi Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Please please let it be 40k not horsey hearsay. beefeb 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 2 hours ago, tychobi said: Please please let it be 40k not horsey hearsay. Well a pony told me it might be 30k. Sky Potato and Warmaster1988 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroWolf Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 I'd be surprised at this point if it came out and wasn't HH, at least to start with. That way it can be seen as an expansion of AT/AI and of course, probably the real reason, marines can pull double duty Doctor Perils 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 5 hours ago, Scribe said: Sorry if I'm failing to follow the plot, but AT isnt getting squatted is it? I can't see it going away entirely, at worst, no more active support? Not that it gets that much anyway. Warmaster1988 and Scribe 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mittens Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 I just want to play normal horus heresy with 6mm models on a huge table, like a real huge city fight! Interrogator Stobz, Warmaster1988 and Warhead01 2 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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