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Hi everyone! I noticed that quite some topics have started lately about ‘nid army list or getting started with our favourite bugs. That’s why I thought it would be nice to start up: Kicking of with the HIVE TYRANT -What wargear options would you pack on him/her and why? - Is the point increase worth taking the wings? (use of swooping assault) - Is it still a viable option after the rule of three introduction? - What’s your favourite way of using it? If you like to showcase your Hive Tyrant, feel free to do so!
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Is there any reason at all a psyker can't be born to a Knight House and rise to become a fully-fledged Knight? Would they be killed at birth? Would they be trained carefully and taught to use their powers in conjunction with their Knight armor (best-case scenario)? Would they just be scooped up by a Black Ship and burned to fuel the fire that is the Emperor?
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So, I was getting stomped by Kairos earlier, when I had a thought. Who's the best psyker of them all? So I came up with a few rules to determine this in a point system, as follows: 1. Each Discipline, cast, deny and learn a psyker has counts for 1 point each. 2. Each ability a model has that affects or is affected by the psyker phase counts for 1 or 2 points, decided per ability. 3. Every 10 wounds is a point. 4. The C'tan count as psykers for this; having Powers of the C'tan means they don't get any Deny points, but they also get 1 point for being unable to be denied. 5. I decided I'd only look at named characters (plus the Neurothrope, basic Librarian and Weirdboy) because frankly, it'd take way too long to do all of them. Addendum: I have way too much time, so I've decided to break this rule horribly. 6. Bought upgrades don't count. Space Wolves Psychic Hoods, Lord of Change Rods of Sorcery, etc. Any complaints or tweaks to this system, I'd like to hear. It's not a perfect system, but I'd say it gives a rough idea of what each psyker can do relative to others. = PSYKER TIER LIST = Aetos'rau'keres (Forge World) - 18 (Cast III, Deny III, Learn III, Disciplines I, Bracketed Bonus (1 point), Greater Smite Range Bonus (3 points), >20 wounds, Mantle of Twisted Fates (2 points)) Magnus The Red - 17 (Cast III, Deny III, Learn III, Disciplines III, >10 wounds, Conditional FNP vs. Perils (1 point), Smite+ (1 point), Psyker Reroll (1 point), Bracketed Deny (1 point)) Kairos Fateweaver - 16 (Cast III, Deny III, Learn VI, Disciplines I, Bracketed Bonus (1 point), Smite Range Bonus (1 point), >10 wounds) Eldrad Ulthran - 14 (Cast III, Deny II, Learn III, Disciplines I, Runes of Fate (Learn score x2), Conditional Bonus (1 point), Psyker Reroll (1 point)) Ahzek Ahriman - 11 (Cast III, Deny III, Learn III, Disciplines II) Scabeiathrax (Forge World) - 11 (Cast III, Deny III, Learn II, Disciplines I, >20 wounds) Rotigus - 11 (Cast II, Deny II, Learn III, Disciplines I, Deluge of Nurgle (1 point), >10 wounds) Zarakynel (Forge World) - 11 (Cast III, Deny III, Learn II, Disciplines I, >20 wounds) Tigurius - 10 (Cast II, Deny II, Learn III, Disciplines I, Hood of Hellfire (2 points)) Njal Stormcaller - 10 (Cast II, Deny II, Learn III, Disciplines I, Lord of Tempests (1 point), Psychic Hood (1 point)) Grand Master Voldus - 10 (Cast III, Deny III, Learn III, Disciplines I) Sevrin Loth (Forge World) - 10 (Cast II, Deny III, Learn II, Disciplines I, Psychic Hood (1 point), Bane of the Damned (1 point)) Necrosius the Undying (Forge World) - 9 (Cast II, Deny III, Learn III, Disciplines I) Mephiston - 9 (Cast II, Deny II, Learn III, Psychic Hood, Disciplines I) Lord of Change (generic) - 9 (Cast II, Deny II, Learn III, Disciplines I, Bracketed Bonus (1 point)) Ahazra Redth (Forge World) - 9 (Cast II, Deny II, Learn II, Disciplines I, Psychic Hood (1 point), Talisman of Sundered Souls (1 point)) Ezekiel - 9 (Cast II, Deny II, Learn III, Psychic Hood, Disciplines I) Mortarion - 9 (Cast II, Deny III, Learn III, Disciplines I) Hector Rex (Forge World) - 8 (Cast II, Deny III, Learn II, Disciplines I) Daemon Prince (Thousand Sons) - 8 (Cast II, Deny I, Learn II, Disciplines III) Exalted Sorcerer - 7 (Cast II, Deny I, Learn II, Disciplines II) Kaldor Draigo - 7 (Cast II, Deny II, Learn II, Disciplines I) Librarian Dreadnought - 7 (Cast II, Deny I, Learn II, Disciplines I, Psychic Hood) Basic/Primaris/Vanguard/Terminator Librarian - 7 (Cast II, Deny I, Learn II, Disciplines I, Psychic Hood) Malignant Plaguecaster - 7 (Cast II, Deny I, Learn II, Disciplines I, Pestilential Fallout (1 point)) Great Unclean One (generic) - 7 (Cast II, Deny I, Learn II, Disciplines I, Putrid Offering (1 point)) Basic/Primaris/Vanguard/Terminator Rune Priest - 6 (Cast II, Deny I, Learn II, Disciplines I) Basic/Terminator Sorcerer - 6 (Cast II, Deny I, Learn II, Disciplines I) Typhus - 6 (Cast II, Deny I, Learn II, Disciplines I) Be'lakor - 6 (Cast II, Deny I, Learn II, Disciplines I) Keeper of Secrets - 6 (Cast II, Deny I, Learn II, Disciplines I) Neurothrope - 6 (Cast II, Deny I, Learn I, Disciplines I, Warp Siphon (1 point)) Huron Blackheart - 5 (Cast I, Deny I, Learn I, The Hamadrya (1 point), Disciplines I) Castellan Crowe - 5 (Cast II, Deny I, Learn I, Disciplines I) The Deceiver - 5 (Cast I, Deny 0, Learn II, Disciplines I, Powers of the C'tan (1 point)) The Nightbringer - 5 (Cast I, Deny 0, Learn II, Disciplines I, Powers of the C'tan (1 point)) Weirdboy - 5 (Cast I, Deny I, Learn I, Disciplines I, Waaagh! Energy (1 point)) Changecaster, Fateskimmer, Fluxmaster - 5 (Cast I, Deny I, Learn II, Disciplines I) Daemon Prince (CSM/Daemons/Death Guard) - 4 (Cast I, Deny I, Learn I, Disciplines I) Wraithseer (Forge World) - 4 (Cast I, Deny I, Learn II, Disciplines 0) Tzaangor Shaman - 4 (Cast I, Deny I, Learn I, Disciplines I) Herald of Slaanesh - 4 (Cast I, Deny I, Learn I, Disciplines I) The Changeling - 4 (Cast I, Deny I, Learn I, Disciplines I) Poxbringer - 4 (Cast I, Deny I, Learn I, Disciplines I) Rubric Marines/Scarab Occult Terminators - 3 (Cast I, Deny I, Learn I, Disciplines I, Smite-) Horrors - 3 (Cast I, Deny I, Learn 0, Disciplines 0, Magic Made Manifest (1 point)) The Blue Scribes - 2 (Cast 0, Deny 0, Learn 0, Disciplines 0, Xirat'p's Sorcerous Barrage (2 points)) = END LIST = Surprising to nobody, Eldrad and the Tzeentchian named psykers come out on top. Down at the bottom are Huron, the C'tan, Crowe and the Weirdboy. Again, comments, questions and advice are all welcome. EDIT: Added Imperial Armor exclusive psyker special characters, plus the Wraithseer because why not? EDIT II: Added Magnus' various bonuses, and resolved to add in all the unnamed Psykers as well. EDIT III: Added all (non-Forge World) Chaos Psykers I could find (note I don't have access to the rules for Shalaxi Helbane) as well as variants on Librarians and the Libby Dread from Blood Angels.