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Awesome, I've added that in. I'm a little unsure of your names, though - Captain Tyranus would've been the one in 746 undertaking the Hellstar Purge (or whatever it eventually gets called) - Tyranid/Tyranus...? I don't like that. The easiest thing to do would be to switch Tyranus and Caranatus, but give it some thought.

 

I've also been working on Company-specific timelines. These don't need fancy tables because they just serve to illustrate where we're missing information. I've included yours and mine because they're the most immediate:

 

III Company

749 - Sadizar IX

797 - Y Dies

845 - X Dies, Sirius becomes Captain

900 - Holds breach during Garrett Insurrection

992 - Second Tyrannic War/Hive Fleet Kraken

994 - Battle at Oubliette against Iron Warriors

 

V Company

815 - Midian dies, Escalus becomes Captain

900 - Garrett Insurrection

923 - Escalus becomes First-Captain, Cascarus becomes Captain

987 - War of Woe, Cascarus dies, Anteas becomes Captain

990 - Achenite Apostasy

994 - Battle for Oubliette against Iron Warriors. During return to Losanco, blown off course to Karthagot Nova.

995 - Maethax

997 - Pursuit of Melchor

 

Many of the battles in the history reflect the players in my group - Nick's Black Legion/Melchor, the Albino Orks that Caphius fights (setting it up so Anteas can encounter them) - the Tau fighting Timon and the Fourth. Equally, for the Third, I've tried to incorporate elements of both your circle and Marshal2_Crusader's. You've got Tyranids, so I've got Sadizar IX, the Hellstar Purge and my idea was that in 992, Sirius would turn his attention towards Tyranids. Crusader's group includes renegade Iron Warriors, so the third fought alongside the fifth against Ares Vrolok. I think it's neat to try to set up these story arcs that you guys can play with.

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I loved Tiberius' new drawing so much that I decided to spend about 45 minutes and do this:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a333/Toyship/Malus_lr2.jpg

 

Nothing special, it has a lot of deficiencies, but I wanted to see what he would look like in color.

 

Anywho, you've done a ton of work on the Castigators since I was around last, so I'll be reading it and offering any tidbits if you want them.

 

Cheers, Toyship

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Hey Toyship! That looks pretty good. I am glad you enjoyed the picture. It turned out alot better than I had anticipated, especially considering I have not drawn in several months. :blush:

 

At some point I will have to draw the rest of the captains... :whistling:

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Hey Toyship! That looks pretty good. I am glad you enjoyed the picture. It turned out alot better than I had anticipated, especially considering I have not drawn in several months.

 

At some point I will have to draw the rest of the captains...

 

Glad it meets with your approval, its nothing much, just blocked in colors obviously. For not drawing in several months thats darn good. I may have to speak to you about your technique in the future, as I am a fellow artist. Ill be going to school for it next fall.

 

Back to the topic at hand:

It's in print now! Don't let him get away, lads!

 

Thats quite the commitment, I cant wait to see them all. I have to say this fellow is my favorite so far, beside the Loscanan.

 

Anyway, more later.

 

Toyship

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Cpt Tiberius, great work with Mallus. Can't wait to see more.

 

Mol, the timeline i was refering to was that of the 2nd company that you have already made. I have tried to create some events for the 2nd company, which you may do with as you wish, I'm not the writer type. Also i haven't included dates, not sureon dating system.

 

1) The Delvis Rift wars - The Firebrands were patroling the Delvis rift, when they encountered a Night Lords fleet Commanded by Lord Pherax. Outnumbered 2 to 1, Strike Crusier Inviolate, Commanded by Captain Mithras, with escorts conducted hit and run raids until reinforcements could arrive. Some of the Night Lords vessels managed to escape.

 

2) The siege of Demos - The Firebrands manged to track down the Night Lords stronghold and attacked. Lord Pherax escapes swearing vengence against the Firebrands.

 

3) The Phylos System rebellion - The Word Bearers start rebellions throughout the Phylos System. The Castigators send several companies to restore the Emperor's rule. Chaplain Ignatius single-handedly slays the Dark Apostle, but is badly injuried. Later he is entombed within a dreadnought.

 

 

That is what i managed so far. Its not much but it is something. I have created several enemy characters for the Firebrands. Some are lacking a name.

 

1) Chaos Lord Pherax - Night Lords Chapter

 

2) Autarch Alaedron - Craftworld Alaitoc

 

3) Dark Eldar Kabal of the severing Talon

 

4) Dark Eldar Wych Cult of Agony

 

5) Dark Apostle __________ the Chastiser

 

6) Dark Apostle __________ the Seed Bearer

 

 

I have also modified the "FireBrands" roster a little.

 

Captain Caphius, Commander of the Watch

Chaplain Nicodemus

 

Command squad:

 

Senior Veteran Sergeant Soren

Apothecary Janus

Standard Bearer Tyrus

Codicier Gavius

 

Tactical squad Arius

Tactical squad Pius - "The Devouted"

Tactical squad Taurin - "The Rampagers"

Tactical squad Castus

Tactical squad Lucan

Tactical squad Remus

Assualt squad Brutus - "Crimson Hammers"

Assualt squad Marius - "Eviscerators"

Devastator squad Valerian

Devastator squad Korvin

 

Chaplain Venerable Dreadnought - Ignatius

Venerable Dreadnought -

Dreadnought -

 

 

Strike cruiser Inviolate - Captain Mithras

 

I'm still working on it, but it is slow due to real life. So what do you all think? I know i don't match the skill of all who have contributed to the Castigators. Right now i'm in the process to flesh out the company sergeants. I have included some squad names, but haven't got all done.

 

For example, Sergeant Pius has his squad named "The Devouted". Sergeant Pius was at one time a chaplain novitiate, but didn't finish due to the death of his mentor. He has taken this as a sign that he has another path to follow. During battle, he has been seen walking through a war zone. He would walk delivering the Emperor's wrath without taking any major injuries. His squad believe him to be blessed by the Emperor and have taken to his method of warfare. To date, he has not lost any of his squad, no matter what war zone he has been in.

 

Sergeant Taurin's squad "The Rampagers". Taurin follows the policy, "the best defense, is a good offense." Taurin will close the distance with the enemy as fast as he can. Taurin has also developed a close bond with Sergeant pius. Sometimes Sergeant Taurin will move his squad through sergeant pius's squad of "Devouted" to reach the enemy quickly and without injury. This tactic has been used many times to spearhead assualts.

 

Sergeant Brutus squad "Crimson Hammers". Assualt sergeant Brutus carries a thunderhammer as his weapon of choice. During the seige of Demos, Sergeant Brutus and his squad held a breach against numerous Night Lords. When the breach was reached by the other Castigators, Brutus and his squad stood amoung a mound of corpses and were covered in gore. Sergeant Brutus is broader and taller than most in his company.

 

Sergeant Marius squad "Eviscerators". Assault sergeant Marius has a cool and collected manner, until he is ready to wage war. Marius carries a eviscerator to battle. When he is in combat, he turns into a mercious killer that none can match.

 

 

So what do you think? I got my bullet proof vest on :)

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ALL YOUR FLUFF ARE BELONG TO US

 

http://www.immortalenemies.com/1stsgtsvlla_sm.jpg

 

Actually, the way I pictured this one working out is that our friend, here, Sulla, while a very cunning fighter, was not of the temperance to command a company. Coming from the more fanatical side of the Castigators, the self-hating kind of disfigured freak, he accrued many scars over the course of his many centuries of service. Most notably was a melta-bomb that went off in close proximity to his face, melting his scarred face and blinding him. The visage he wears now is no mask, but instead his actual steel plated (black carapace) lined skull. Etc etc.

 

1st Sgt may have to change, depending on our good friend and creator Mol. I frankly don't like the idea that you can't use "Master Sgt" because of Halo, because it is a real rank, but so is 1st Sgt.

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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :P

 

That is a beautiful yet scary picture, fantastic job, I wish my artwork was that good. By the way Mol still work on my Castigator TF in between my chapter, and my sons plus my Knights of Gryphonne, I will try to post so pics or just send them to you soon.

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Mol, the timeline i was refering to was that of the 2nd company that you have already made. I have tried to create some events for the 2nd company, which you may do with as you wish, I'm not the writer type. Also i haven't included dates, not sureon dating system.

 

Ah, okay. I've never got round to writing a specific timeline centred around the Second Company, although as you can see on the previous page, I've started collating information from 749-999.M41 so that we have the most recent 250 years of Castigator history down.

 

1) The Delvis Rift wars - The Firebrands were patroling the Delvis rift, when they encountered a Night Lords fleet Commanded by Lord Pherax. Outnumbered 2 to 1, Strike Crusier Inviolate, Commanded by Captain Mithras, with escorts conducted hit and run raids until reinforcements could arrive. Some of the Night Lords vessels managed to escape.

 

2) The siege of Demos - The Firebrands manged to track down the Night Lords stronghold and attacked. Lord Pherax escapes swearing vengence against the Firebrands.

 

3) The Phylos System rebellion - The Word Bearers start rebellions throughout the Phylos System. The Castigators send several companies to restore the Emperor's rule. Chaplain Ignatius single-handedly slays the Dark Apostle, but is badly injuried. Later he is entombed within a dreadnought.

 

These sound good, for the most part! It's awesome to see you coming up with ideas like these. I was confused at first about Captain Mithras, thinking these were set in a pre-Caphian era, but having read your whole post I understand now. I like the idea of a Chaplain dreadnought, too! I'll certainly add these into the list. The only one I'd consider editing is the Phylos System rebellion, because it seems like we've already had a lot of run-ins with the Word Bearers - the Legion is only so large, and the Castigators aren't that significant in a galactic sense. :) What we could do is perhaps put the Phylos rebellion back (or, alternatively, forward - I do have some ideas for the 'End Times' based on your suggestions, which I'll hopefully get around to detailing soon. Keep an eye out for those.

 

That is what i managed so far. Its not much but it is something. I have created several enemy characters for the Firebrands. Some are lacking a name.

 

1) Chaos Lord Pherax - Night Lords Chapter

 

2) Autarch Alaedron - Craftworld Alaitoc

 

3) Dark Eldar Kabal of the severing Talon

 

4) Dark Eldar Wych Cult of Agony

 

5) Dark Apostle __________ the Chastiser

 

6) Dark Apostle __________ the Seed Bearer

 

Awesome - are these based off your playing group? I forget where Alaitoc is in the galaxy. One of my friends plays Biel-Tan, and I've just come to accept that fluff-wise, it's unlikely for the Swordwind to use the webway to travel across the galaxy just to attack the Castigators! :) (Then again, Alaitoc did attack the Invaders...) - Fabricator-General mentioned to me the day before yesterday that one of the players in his group has a DIY craftworld, Kuraan-Baal. I figure it could be neat if we could tie Kuraan-Baal in somehow, but I'm conscious of not wanting to impinge on his fluff - I'd have to talk to Fab-Gen.

 

With regards to the Dark Eldar, I think Caphius would enjoy honing his skills. The Howling Stars are a prime hunting ground for the Dark Eldar - the unreliable warp conditions mean that the Eldar can strike out of the Webway with little fear of retaliation. The Castigators certainly have an extensive history of fighting Dark Eldar - the first battle I wrote about Captain Lycidius involved the Dark Eldar, and Caphius would no doubt want to emulate his hero. Definitely. :)

 

If these aren't based around the group you play with, it'd be neat to perhaps write some history for the Second inspired by them.

 

Captain Caphius, Commander of the Watch

Chaplain Nicodemus

 

Command squad:

 

Senior Veteran Sergeant Soren

Apothecary Janus

Standard Bearer Tyrus

Codicier Gavius

 

Tactical squad Arius

Tactical squad Pius - "The Devouted"

Tactical squad Taurin - "The Rampagers"

Tactical squad Castus

Tactical squad Lucan

Tactical squad Remus

Assualt squad Brutus - "Crimson Hammers"

Assualt squad Marius - "Eviscerators"

Devastator squad Valerian

Devastator squad Korvin

 

Chaplain Venerable Dreadnought - Ignatius

Venerable Dreadnought -

Dreadnought -

 

Strike cruiser Inviolate - Captain Mithras

 

Looking good! I'd only say that 'Devouted' should be 'Devout', but that works fine as far as I'm concerned.

 

The idea of an angry Space Marine Sergeant with an Eviscerator is pretty cool! I think that'd be interesting to see. Of course, in my minds' eye I mean an Eviscerator like this and not the ones like these. ;)

 

Keep up the good work! I look forward to hearing more on the Second soon. I'll try to gather together a timeline for you, and I'll edit your squad nicknames into the listing.

 

 

 

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Hah! :)

 

I like Sulla a great deal. He's certainly intimidating, which is a great part of the Castigators' Honor Guard, I think. Serving the dual function of protecting the Chapter Master and protecting the Chapter from the Chapter Master, it's definitely cool to see someone tackling them. To be fair, I didn't say he couldn't have the rank of Master Sergeant, I just said I'd be wary of using the rank of Master Sergeant as a result of Halo. I've since actually woken up and realised the guy in Halo is Master Chief, which'll teach me. :) I've never really given much thought to rank in the Honour Guard, though - I guess it's because the Space Marines often seem more of a monastic organisation than a military one - I figure all of the Honour Guard have transcended the rank structure, standing outside the Chapter. Perhaps they were once First Company Veterans - now it doesn't matter, they're all defenders of the Chapter's honour.

 

Thank you for taking the time to illustrate the Castigators again! I definitely appreciate it.

 

 

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By the way Mol still work on my Castigator TF... I will try to post so pics or just send them to you soon.

 

Awesome! I look forward to that, definitely.

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I wrote a short story to see if I got the Castigators right, for a short story I will be doing on some 10th Company Scouts! I hope you all enjoy this, and I hope Molotov does to! It involves Atellus' embarrassing mishap on Achenar.

Harsh breathing echoed across the marble atrium as Atellus unsheathed his chainblade. Blood dripped from his armor in streams and his optical lenses glared with daemonic fury. With a clench of his fist, the venerable weapon started to cough before settling into a purr.

 

Before him, laying on the ground and surrounded by his belated honor guard was Planetary Governor Laevus, spawn of Chaos, warp touched.

 

Arms outstretched, the heretic began to plead. Perhaps a normal man would have been swayed by the traitors piteous mewling, but Sergeant Atellus was no normal man.

 

With a mighty swing of Bellisus, Laevus sprawled to the ground, bisected by the gigantic weapon’s growling teeth.

 

Turning to assemble the shocked audience of gathered nobles, Atellus began to speak, raising his chainblade as in benediction to the Emperor.

 

“You who have listened to this traitor’s lies shall burn! We have access to records of those who voted for this daemon spawn” at this, Atellus swung Bellisus down, crushing the Governor’s still moaning head “and those who haven’t. Confess! Confess your sins and perhaps your death will be swift!”

 

Atellus’ thundering seemed to have shocked the aristocrats into dumb silence. Hardly a surprise, a crimson god of war, bedecked in gore and fyceline smoke. The pale atrium reverberated until an old herald, bent with age dared to walk forward and address Atellus. Dropping his cane after approaching within five paces of the Castigator, the herald prostrated himself before the Sergeant and started to mumble quickly. It took a nudge from Atellus’ armoured boot to convince the elderly man to speak more coherently.

 

“My lord Astarte! I mean no offense as I am sure your infinite wisdom, grace, beauty encompasses all subjects and that with this wisdom, grace-“ another nudge “my lord I mean to say, that by the rules of succession upon Achenar, single combat is an eligible method of inheriting power. It may take a judiciary council to decide whether your heroic, magnificent, stupendous” nudge “slaughter of the governor and his body guard constitutes single combat but I believe the general consensus is that you, my lord Astarte, are now the Planetary Governor of Achenar. We live to serve.”

 

For a single moment, Atellus could not find the words to phrase his reply. But for a moment only.

 

“Hit me herald.”

 

The old man looked at him questioningly. Trembles started to overtake his wiry frame.

 

“Do not make me repeat myself elderly fool.”

 

Taking a hesitant step, the herald tapped Atellus’ chest plate lightly, producing a slightly clap of skin on ceramite.

 

Taking an exaggerated step backwards, the Sergeant sunk to one knee.

 

Raising his head to address the crowd for the last time, Atellus spoke.

 

“This man” the herald looked at Atellus with alarm and produced a bone-tag “I reiterate, Decrus Fortna of Achenar, former herald of the assembly has defeated me, Atellus, current Plantery Governor of Achenar, in single combat. I abdicate my position of power to Governor Fortna.” Turning to face the newly promoted governor, Atellus inquired softly “may I execute the traitors of your world my lord Governor?”

 

A barely imperceptible nod came from the old man and the Castigator drew his side arm.

 

“By the Emperors will, shall heretics fall. Die.”

 

Muffled coughs of a bolt pistol echoed across the atrium.

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That is a good idea to gather a timeline for the last 250 years. I will try to come up with more of the "Firebrands" history.

 

Captain Mithras is the current captain of the strike cruiser "Inviolate." I'm still trying to flesh him out. I decided that it was only right to include characters from the "Inviolate", due to the "Firebrands" contact with them. I wish to add more "crew" to the "Inviolate", but i need to know more on the positions held on a space marine ship.

 

You can move the Phylos Rebellion, i have no problem with it. Maybe make it a splinter group from a privious battle. Maybe one that the 5th company helped with?

 

The list of enemies i had suggested were created by me to be atangonists for the "Firebrands." I read through the 5th edition rulebook to see what races were in the sector. I am trying to come up with more enemy characters and battles. I will try to create a better account of the battles with these enemies. Does anyone have any ideas as to what races that have been encounted by the Castigators (maybe by company)? Maybe give ideas to what they would like to see the Castigators battle?

I have an idea for a Ork Big Mek to be included into the list of enemies. Just need a name that sticks out. I have even fiddled with the "Firebrands" running into the Ryssith again, maybe trying to find a special item to help them restart their race? What do you think?

 

Sergeant Pius squad is now the "Devout". :P

 

I'm open to any suggestions on squad names.

 

It would help Mol, if you could give some details to the "Howling Stars" region. Maybe spark some ideas. Also, more info on the Ryssith race.

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That is a good idea to gather a timeline for the last 250 years. I will try to come up with more of the "Firebrands" history.

 

You can see it on the last page, but I'm probably going to be transferring it to my blog soon so it's easier to get to.

 

Captain Mithras is the current captain of the strike cruiser "Inviolate." I'm still trying to flesh him out. I decided that it was only right to include characters from the "Inviolate", due to the "Firebrands" contact with them. I wish to add more "crew" to the "Inviolate", but i need to know more on the positions held on a space marine ship.

 

The thought I had was that the Inviolate is a vessel traditionally used by the Second, but it wouldn't be an exclusive arrangement. The War on Maethax had the Second and Fifth arriving on the Sacred Endeavour, one of the Chapter's two Battle Barges. (One day, I might well collect a Castigator force in Battlefleet Gothic.) I created the Inviolate for the first battle I actually ever wrote about Hero-Captain Lycidius - the defence of Aeteron Point against the Dark Eldar.

 

The list of enemies i had suggested were created by me to be atangonists for the "Firebrands." I read through the 5th edition rulebook to see what races were in the sector. I am trying to come up with more enemy characters and battles. I will try to create a better account of the battles with these enemies. Does anyone have any ideas as to what races that have been encounted by the Castigators (maybe by company)? Maybe give ideas to what they would like to see the Castigators battle?

I have an idea for a Ork Big Mek to be included into the list of enemies. Just need a name that sticks out. I have even fiddled with the "Firebrands" running into the Ryssith again, maybe trying to find a special item to help them restart their race? What do you think?

 

Ah, okay! It's just a fairly extensive list, and I wouldn't have thought too many people would escape Caphius! ;) That's the thing - although I'm often critical of Caphius, he's a capable Captain. In my opinion he would never be more than that. He's certainly one of the more interesting characters within the Castigator hierarchy, I think.

 

The reason I asked about your gaming group was that I thought it'd be cool to make some veiled references. Those sort of 'easter eggs' always appeal to me. I'd suggest paring the list down a little, though. If we took out the Dark Apostles (Caphius would've fought Word Bearers in 900.M41 and 995(?).M41, so that works okay. I'm cool with him hunting down Dark Eldar across the Howling Stars. And Pherax seems like an interesting character for Caphius to pit his wits against. As for the Alaitoc reference, I'd need to talk to Fab-Gen (and through him, his friend), but it's possible Caphius might've had some contact with Kuraan-Baal. I'll get back to you on that, though! :lol:

 

With regards to the Ryssith, I can't tell you too much about them here (this is a power-armoured board, after all) but my idea is that the Ryssith never really recovered after Baraquiel broke the back of their Empire. There are a few scattered nestworlds, but certainly none in the Howling Stars. With regards to other aliens, I think that Tau, Tyranids and Necrons are the least likely races to have been encountered by the Castigators. The Tau have been encountered by the Fourth and sort of by the Fifth (Anteas withdrew his forces in the face of a Tau battlefleet, so they never actually fought), whilst in recent years Sirius has seen the Tyranids as a major threat. I did think that the Castigators probably haven't encountered the Necrons. I tend to think of the Necrons as incredibly, incredibly powerful. I mean, they've managed to get their way to Mars unmolested by Battlefleet Solar...I'd like to think that there aren't any Tomb-worlds in the Howling Stars! :)

 

I think in the Sirius/Tyranid relationship you can draw a lot of dichotomies, the key contrast being between Sirius as the "lightbringer" and the Tyranids as a pervasive, all-encompassing, consuming force. Caphius against the Tyranids wouldn't work as well because of they way he's such a belligerent, bellicose and proud indiviudal. Fighting the faceless horrors of the Hive Fleets doesn't give him something to bounce off, whilst at least with the other races you have. If you read the timeline, I did have Caphius encounter Duffdreg, my Warboss. You can see pictures of him here - so perhaps that Mekboy was part of Waaagh! Duffdreg?

 

It would help Mol, if you could give some details to the "Howling Stars" region. Maybe spark some ideas. Also, more info on the Ryssith race.

 

What sort of details are you after? It's not exactly crystal clear in my head, but if you tell me what you're after, I'll try to give you the details in as comprehensive a form as I can manage.

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Believe me, a have a folder that is about 2 inches thick ( from the Castigators beginings to present, even your old website info). I have a great appreciation for the Castigators. It is just hard to go through all those notes and corrections/additions. :)

 

So we have the "Firebrands" fighting the Dark Eldar kabal of the Severing Talon, Dark Eldar Wych cult of Agony, and the Night Lords - Lord Pherax. (set in stone?) Let me know on the Craftworld Kurran-Baal, also any characters that he may have developed. Do you have any info on the Ryssith that you could PM me or send by E-mail? The Big Mek can be from Waaagh! Duffdreg. Did you have a name or character? Are all the orks from the Waaagh! Duffdreg albino? Any reason? I agree with you about the Tyranids, Tau, and Necrons. I wouldn't think Caphius would have tangled with them.

 

The strike cruiser "Inviolate", i know that the "Firebrands" wouldn't use all the time, but it is important to Caphius due to it being linked to hero-captain Lycidius. That is why i am trying to give some more history and personality to it. Does anyone know the positions held on a space marine ship? I know it will be different from the Imperial Navy, but how?

 

The "Howling Stars" region, I am looking for any details on defence/monitioring of, nearby worlds to the Castigators, also if any deamon invasions through warp rifts in the area, and Space Hulk activity (how common is it?).

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Believe me, a have a folder that is about 2 inches thick ( from the Castigators beginings to present, even your old website info). I have a great appreciation for the Castigators. It is just hard to go through all those notes and corrections/additions. ;)

 

So we have the "Firebrands" fighting the Dark Eldar kabal of the Severing Talon, Dark Eldar Wych cult of Agony, and the Night Lords - Lord Pherax. (set in stone?) Let me know on the Craftworld Kurran-Baal, also any characters that he may have developed. Do you have any info on the Ryssith that you could PM me or send by E-mail? The Big Mek can be from Waaagh! Duffdreg. Did you have a name or character? Are all the orks from the Waaagh! Duffdreg albino? Any reason? I agree with you about the Tyranids, Tau, and Necrons. I wouldn't think Caphius would have tangled with them.

 

The strike cruiser "Inviolate", i know that the "Firebrands" wouldn't use all the time, but it is important to Caphius due to it being linked to hero-captain Lycidius. That is why i am trying to give some more history and personality to it. Does anyone know the positions held on a space marine ship? I know it will be different from the Imperial Navy, but how?

 

The "Howling Stars" region, I am looking for any details on defence/monitioring of, nearby worlds to the Castigators, also if any deamon invasions through warp rifts in the area, and Space Hulk activity (how common is it?).

 

It sounds like you have more notes on the Castigators than I do! If you check out the timeline, I've included some events Caphius would've been involved with - the Belaxalar Xenocide is one. (Part of me wonders what he would think of the AdMech afterwards.) I've put it all up in my blog; the most recent entry should have a lot of what you need (though I've not included the stuff from your last post yet.) I'll assemble a quick 2nd Company timeline soon.

 

It strikes me that the majority of opponents that a(ny) Space Marine force engages will be utterly crushed. Obviously the more powerful the opponent, the more difficult that is, but the Space Marines can't be accused of fighting fair! Still, there wouldn't be many recurring enemies left around to plague a Space Marine Captain like Caphius. It strikes me that the Dark Eldar would be a very frustrating opponent for him - they appear without warning and avoid protracted warfare. It strikes me it would be like mosquitos buzzing around a raging bull. Caphius can bluster, but I imagine that the depredations of the Dark Eldar would enrage him. In some senses I feel like the Night Lords are perhaps too close to that archetype as well - striking from the shadows, fading away, the use of fear-based tactics and psychological warfare. Part of me is concerned that the Castigators have tangled in the last 250 years with the Word Bearers, Black Legion, Iron Warriors and now potentially the Night Lords. It might be worth our while coming up with a renegade Chapter. Alternatively, you could look at Pherax being a Flesh-Smith from the Harvesters - no doubt Caphius would enjoy defending Baraquiel's honour.

 

With regards to Waaagh! Duffdreg (the name is still under consideration) - only Duffdreg himself is albino, it's just the other Orks paint themselves white because they want to emulate him - after all, he's the Chosen of Mork (or was it Gork...?) ;). Now, the Ryssith aren't really something I imagined the Castigators encountering again for a while, and I'd like to leave them out for a while. That's partly why I came up with the Belaxalar Xenocide for Caphius to vent his anti-alien sentiment.

 

I don't think detailing the Inviolate should be a priority - there aren't lots of details regarding Astartes fleet crews, and we'll eventually get around to it when we examine the serfs' caste-system. There is a double-page spread on Navy crews in the Battlefleet Gothic rulebook, but I'd prefer to leave that until later. My thought is that the Second Company would prefer to use the Inviolate, and would in fact do so on a regular basis, but not always. That's the distinction I was trying to convey.

 

I've not got that much detail on the Howling Stars. I don't intend to detail an entire Imperial Sector! I leave that to dedicated groups like the Anargo Project. I figure the Howling Stars would encompass an area between a sub-sector and a sector in size. Perhaps a dozen systems or so - thirty at most. Once the domain of the Ryssith, until Baraquiel broke the back of the Empire and drove them almost to the point of extinction.I figure that the warp currents across the Stars are prone to periods of great turbulence. These storms (or 'squalls') striek without warning and rage unabated. It can cause vessels to be ejected without warning from the warp, and those that do reach their destination endure an incredibly violent journey. That's partly why the Dark Eldar Kabalites can enjoy their raids with little fear of retaliation. As a result, I would think that the PDF forces across the Howling Stars would be quite well-equipped and relatively large in size. I know that there is a forgeworld in the Howling Stars, but I've not narrowed down a name for it at the moment. (The working name that Barret came up with was 'Gamma Profundis'.) Either way, this forgeworld has provided the Castigator with a number of variant patterns (in other words, it gives me an excuse to convert things) and plays host to the Legio Lux titan-group.

 

The Castigators would be the only Space Marine Chapter in the Howling Stars, I would think. They're arguably the Champions of the Howling Stars. Though they don't contain their operations solely to the stars, they remain ready to protect its citizens. Anti-piracy duties would be one role of the Castigators. As to Space Hulks, I don't know how common they'd be. Relatively rare, I would think. Equally, I doubt warp-rifts would be especially common. The major threats affecting the Howling Stars would be Human Piracy, Dark Eldar Raiders and Orks. Of course, Space Marines aren't garrison forces, and their brand of 'defence' rests on being proactive where possible - actively identifying and destroying potential threats. Another priority would be defending their homeworld (though in honesty, if the Castigators weren't there, Losanco Secundus would be an insignificant and forgotten planet). Insignium Astartes mentions the 7th Company Ultramarines engaged in a campaign, and I think sometimes we're guilty of Battle-Company bias. They wouldn't be engaged in the same sorts of wars that the Battle Companies would be, but have to gain their experience somehow! The Reserves could be used throughout the Howling Stars, though equally I imagined that Anteas, as Master of the Marches, would be responsible for patrolling the Howling Stars. I'm not really sure there.

 

Before I wrap this post up I just wanted to point out to anyone that might not have seen them that Fabricator-General has uploaded most of his 4th Company force in the Hall of Honour, with WIP pictures of Captain Timon in his other thread. Check them out! :rolleyes:

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In some senses I feel like the Night Lords are perhaps too close to that archetype as well - striking from the shadows, fading away, the use of fear-based tactics and psychological warfare. Part of me is concerned that the Castigators have tangled in the last 250 years with the Word Bearers, Black Legion, Iron Warriors and now potentially the Night Lords. It might be worth our while coming up with a renegade Chapter. Alternatively, you could look at Pherax being a Flesh-Smith from the Harvesters - no doubt Caphius would enjoy defending Baraquiel's honour.

 

I see and understand your concern. The Harvesters sound intresting. Your DIY renegades? How are they connected to the Castigators or are they not? I believe that Lord Pherax could be a "Flesh Smith", that is with your permission to use the Harvesters. :angry: Just need to know if you have a pic or a description showing how debase the Apothecaries themselves have become or do you see them as looking as a normal Apothecary with dark desires.

 

The Big Mek i was thinking of is one of considerable knowledge in building ork technology. I see him with 2 hulking ork avatars of Mork and Gork as bodyguards. There size would be like that of an Eldar Wraithlord or bigger. What do you think?

 

don't think detailing the Inviolate should be a priority - there aren't lots of details regarding Astartes fleet crews, and we'll eventually get around to it when we examine the serfs' caste-system. There is a double-page spread on Navy crews in the Battlefleet Gothic rulebook, but I'd prefer to leave that until later. My thought is that the Second Company would prefer to use the Inviolate, and would in fact do so on a regular basis, but not always. That's the distinction I was trying to convey

 

I'll just put the notes to the side then for later.

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In some senses I feel like the Night Lords are perhaps too close to that archetype as well - striking from the shadows, fading away, the use of fear-based tactics and psychological warfare. Part of me is concerned that the Castigators have tangled in the last 250 years with the Word Bearers, Black Legion, Iron Warriors and now potentially the Night Lords. It might be worth our while coming up with a renegade Chapter. Alternatively, you could look at Pherax being a Flesh-Smith from the Harvesters - no doubt Caphius would enjoy defending Baraquiel's honour.

 

I see and understand your concern. The Harvesters sound intresting. Your DIY renegades? How are they connected to the Castigators or are they not? I believe that Lord Pherax could be a "Flesh Smith", that is with your permission to use the Harvesters. ^_^ Just need to know if you have a pic or a description showing how debase the Apothecaries themselves have become or do you see them as looking as a normal Apothecary with dark desires.

 

The Big Mek i was thinking of is one of considerable knowledge in building ork technology. I see him with 2 hulking ork avatars of Mork and Gork as bodyguards. There size would be like that of an Eldar Wraithlord or bigger. What do you think?

 

I don't think detailing the Inviolate should be a priority - there aren't lots of details regarding Astartes fleet crews, and we'll eventually get around to it when we examine the serfs' caste-system. There is a double-page spread on Navy crews in the Battlefleet Gothic rulebook, but I'd prefer to leave that until later. My thought is that the Second Company would prefer to use the Inviolate, and would in fact do so on a regular basis, but not always. That's the distinction I was trying to convey

 

I'll just put the notes to the side then for later.

 

The Harvesters are connected to the Castigators because they were both created in the 14th Founding, and they are both part of the so-called "Astartes Vocates". They were one of the Chapters that gathered at Baraquiel's behest and swore an oath to defend the Imperium. The Reapers, now the Harvesters, have reneged on that oath, gone against their obligation both to the Emperor and to Baraquiel. If you've got further comments or questions, respond to the blog entry I linked - it'd be the best thing to do. The Apothecaries are very individual, each going in their own direction and undertaking whatever experiments most interest them. A Chapter of mini Fabius Biles, I suppose.

 

The Big Mek sounds interesting indeed. The feats of daring needed to destroy those two Gargants will no doubt resound throught the Second Company Chapel for years to come! :P

 

Did you get a chance to read the Belaxalar Xenocide? I thought it would interest you, but you haven't mentioned it. It's in the timeline on the previous page, or in my most recent blog entry, whichever is easier for you to get to. B) I've also put up sketches of Company standards for Tiberius to think about - including the Second Company's banner.

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To say the least, I've started a new folder with your current timeline and chapter stats from your blog. So now it will a little easier to find things. Yes, i have read it, Mol. It has sparked some ideas. How long was The Belaxalar Xenocide? You didn't say in the post. Are the Belax only modified at birth or at any stage of their life? What type of society did they have? Were they devided by a caste system (by different modifications/ sub-species) ? Was the purge only by land or in space also?

 

I saw the sketches of the companys' banners, they look good. Are they being drawn by Tiberius "as is" by the sketches or are you both throwing ideas at each other whether to modifiy them? Has Caphius's heraldry been decided? If not, what were your ideas for it? Have you heard anything on Nicodemus yet?

 

I thought the Big Mek would intrest you. I am still working on him. Still stuck without a name though. trying to work out his limits, as to not make him to powerful. But I see him not being afraid to fight, but will run to fight another day if he thinks he is losing. When he does come back, he always comes back with new creations to fight.

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Honestly, I have no idea. What I wrote about the Belaxalar Xenocide is all I know - and I didn't especially care enough, at the time, to detail further. The idea was that each city-state created its own breed of soldiers, and that they were hopelessly locked in internicine warfare - only the arrival of the Castigators caused them to unite, and by then it was far too late. Aside from that, I have no details. As for how long it took, less than a year I imagine. Space Marines generally aren't the type to get bogged down in an unproductive war. I liked the idea that in a sense the struggles of the Castigators were all for nothing - the AdMech found out that Belax was, in the end, not worth mining from. Still, less xenos around to pollute the galaxy. I didn't imagine that the Belaxalar were a space-faring race, which just adds to the wholesale slaughter unleashed by Caphius.

 

With regards to the sketches, there's going to be some back-and-forth - it's just Tiberius wanted me to put up my thoughts. Being a visual person, he works far better off sketches (even ones as crude as mine) than verbal descriptions. Something I talked to Darth Potato about was that a number of the Captains seemed to have near-identical heraldries and standards. I thought that was a little off - the Captain's personal heraldry is personal, whilst the Company Standard reflects the achievements of the Company as a whole. Idaeus allowed the fourth company Ultramarines to bear the iron gauntlet, but it was a mistake to have them all identical. I don't know what Caphius's heraldry would be, as yet - I thought it would be neat if it could somehow tie into Lycidius's heraldry (and no, I don't know what his was, either!)

 

Regarding Nicodemus, I haven't pushed Aerion, but I will mention it to him. As to the Ork, I think you've described pretty all the Big Meks in the galaxy! ;)

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I have been thinking alot on Caphius's heraldry, now you wanted it to be linked to Lycidius's heraldry. So I have to start with Lycidius. I went over the notes that you gave me on Lycidius and it somes up to purity. So what would be a symbol for purity? I thought of a scale, a measurer of virtue and sin. Then i thought that purity would be like balancing on a knife edge, this triggered a image of a sword. Then i combined the two images, a downward pointed sword with scales hanging from the handle guard. But if i remember correctly a member of this board has this symbol for his DIY chapter.

 

Now if Lycidius's heraldry is the sword of scales, Caphius's heraldry could be on iron fist clutching the sword of scales, the sword of scales on a shield to symbolize holding Lycidius's faith, or maybe a warrior holding the sword of scales. I kind of like the idea but what do you all think?

 

Other symbols of purity that come to mind are a heart or a warrior shining with a radiance of light. What other images would you think?

 

Now i have a question, are you planning to let sergeant's have their own heraldry or is it only the Company Captains?

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Hello all, I've been talking with Mol for a little bit about starting my own Castigator force, and will be working on a 2nd Company battle-force. I look forward to working on the Castigators with you all, and talking more to you Varen.
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Great to have you aboard, sevink. If have any ideas throw them out there. I'm trying, in my spare time, to work on the "Firebrands" (2nd Company). It is a slow process due to "life" getting in the way. But i hope to make everyone, including Mol, proud. Trying to create some fluff for the "Firebrands", while collecting the minis on the side. Haven't got to start building as of yet. Right now, I've been searching for the right combination of pieces to create Captain Caphius. I plan to post so more on the "Firebrands" soon, just need to improve it more. Is there anything you needed to know or talk about?

 

Heru, thanks about the info. I guess i'll have to find another symbol to represent Purity. I wasn't by no means trying to infringe on them. :)

 

Is there a list or link of all the chapters in the Vocates? I know that each chapter was to represent something like the zodiac symbols/signs.

 

Does anyone else have ideas for symols to represent Purity? The only things that come to mind are a heart and a warrior surrounded by radiant light. I might have to put the Heraldry aside for the moment to concentrate on other things.

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