Mazer Rackham Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mojake said: I also completely forgot about tertiaries, we don't handle them in the RAW way in my home game so it slipped my mind completely. I'm open to options going forward - how do you do it? If there's a more immersive or better way, I'm all ears. Edited March 25 by Mazer Rackham Mojake, Xin Ceithan and BadgersinHills 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/113/#findComment-6162413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojake Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Just now, Mazer Rackham said: I'm open to options going forward - how do you do it? If there's a more immersive of better way, I'm all ears. We don't really use compacts at all as written, we only play infrequently so usually use a set objective with some secondaries - not the best way to play at all but suits us when we pick up BC every few months for a couple sessions. Another QQ on my acquisition, the weapon has Reliable as standard. Because it's poor do I just lose Reliable or do I lose it and gain Unreliable? BadgersinHills, Xin Ceithan and Mazer Rackham 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/113/#findComment-6162414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Mojake said: We don't really use compacts at all as written, we only play infrequently so usually use a set objective with some secondaries - not the best way to play at all but suits us when we pick up BC every few months for a couple sessions. Nice and light then....I can see how that works better for pick up and go. We're still working on how to make things better as I'm reasonably new to BC, so if you have suggestions, we can always look at them. 15 minutes ago, Mojake said: Another QQ on my acquisition, the weapon has Reliable as standard. Because it's poor do I just lose Reliable or do I lose it and gain Unreliable? For now, my instinct is to say it just loses Reliable. EDIT: Yes, I am satisfied this is the case. Edited March 25 by Mazer Rackham Iron Father Ferrum, Xin Ceithan, Lysimachus and 2 others 2 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/113/#findComment-6162415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Blimey, that Reaper is a good pick, isn't it? Dam per Hit is comparable to a Krak Missile, but you're getting maybe 4 or even 5 Hits per shot, and 5 shots before you need to reload! FFG have a real thing for ACs, don't they! Mazer Rackham, Iron Father Ferrum, Machine God and 1 other 2 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/113/#findComment-6162425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 15 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: FFG have a real thing for ACs, don't they! Their love of autocannons is only exceeded by my love of explosions. It is a generous love. Lysimachus, Iron Father Ferrum, Necronaut and 1 other 3 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/113/#findComment-6162430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojake Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 16 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: Blimey, that Reaper is a good pick, isn't it? Dam per Hit is comparable to a Krak Missile, but you're getting maybe 4 or even 5 Hits per shot, and 5 shots before you need to reload! FFG have a real thing for ACs, don't they! Yeah it's pretty crazy how close they are to a Krak missile, even the slight difference in pen is barely a trade off. I suppose Concussive will have some niche uses. Well worth using the Infamy to get that! Although I did misread that I was already down an infamy point so would have only got +20 (still a pass anyway). Machine God, Xin Ceithan, BadgersinHills and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/113/#findComment-6162432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 (edited) We could maybe use the Tigress as our cover story for exiting the system, since we are technically acting as her agents in the short-term, but I suspect she would rather keep her hands squeaky clean in this regard. Perhaps we can present ourselves as privateers or even acting on behalf of the Tigress's rival (not sure if we asked for the name of that bloke)? Edited March 25 by Necronaut Xin Ceithan, BadgersinHills and Mazer Rackham 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/113/#findComment-6162444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 28 minutes ago, Necronaut said: (not sure if we asked for the name of that bloke)? It would be in the intel package, so: Heracles Nydax Xin Ceithan and Necronaut 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/113/#findComment-6162447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 What do you guys think? Maybe pose as agents of this Heracles Nydax acting on his behalf for some urgent errand or this or that? We've been negotiating with the White Tigress, on his behalf, none of the Imperial Navy's business, etc. etc. Or failing that we can just claim to be mercenaries or pirate hunters working for some RT or this or that. Mojake, Xin Ceithan, Mazer Rackham and 2 others 3 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/113/#findComment-6162449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojake Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 8 minutes ago, Necronaut said: What do you guys think? Maybe pose as agents of this Heracles Nydax acting on his behalf for some urgent errand or this or that? We've been negotiating with the White Tigress, on his behalf, none of the Imperial Navy's business, etc. etc. Or failing that we can just claim to be mercenaries or pirate hunters working for some RT or this or that. Pirate hunters following rumours of drukhari presence maybe? Also I cannot wait to stop rolling hot when it's actually a life or death situation. Xin Ceithan, Lysimachus, BadgersinHills and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/113/#findComment-6162453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 (edited) Question: presumably the Tigress brought the Razor in at the same time as the rest of her fleet (I'm assuming relatively recently?) What did they say it was? Will the Impies recognise it as one of her ships? Edit: whatever we say, we'll be coming back in a week or two, so it needs to be something where we have a valid reason for returning too? Edit edit: Do we know of another system that is in a vaguely similar direction to Kataris, and a similar distance away? We could be taking something there and then coming back? (Lone escorts are often used as courier vessels, whether it's for Tigress, Nydax, or someone else entirely) Edited March 25 by Lysimachus BadgersinHills, Xin Ceithan and Mazer Rackham 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/113/#findComment-6162455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgersinHills Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: Question: presumably the Tigress brought the Razor in at the same time as the rest of her fleet (I'm assuming relatively recently?) What did they say it was? Will the Impies recognise it as one of her ships? Edit: whatever we say, we'll be coming back in a week or two, so it needs to be something where we have a valid reason for returning too? It's a former Arbites Strike Cruiser (?), I'm not too familiar with ship class names. @Mazer Rackham Do I need to be a signatory of a compact to benefit from it? Not too familiar with those rules. Edited March 25 by BadgersinHills Lysimachus, Xin Ceithan and Mazer Rackham 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/113/#findComment-6162459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xin Ceithan Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Do we have any idea if and to what extent the Mandeville points are guarded in this system ( and at the target’s side )? I mean the Dredge slipped in, the Red Wolves did and we shipped out Blackout from Brimstone? That doesn’t exactly sound like there is full blockade around it ?! Mazer Rackham, Lysimachus and BadgersinHills 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/113/#findComment-6162462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 @Mojake good call with hunting the Drukhari as a cover story. Having proof of their presence on hand certainly lends credibility to that. I like it. Unsure what to do about proof of ownership... Maybe tell a half truth and say we recently acquired the ship as payment assuming it otherwise has a more or less clean record? Also what does our ident currently show us as being called? I know we are calling the ship Razor's Edge amongst ourselves, but was the ship given a completely clean set of idents and whatnot, as in a blank slate? Mazer Rackham, Xin Ceithan, Mojake and 2 others 4 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/113/#findComment-6162465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 (edited) 24 minutes ago, BadgersinHills said: It's a former Arbites Strike Cruiser (?), I'm not too familiar with ship class names. Do we try our best Judge Dredd impressions? Her primary ship is that, correct, but I dont think they were pretending to be an Arbites fleet? Our ship is just an Iconoclast Destroyer (basic BFG Chaos Escort). But what I meant was, what did they say the Razor was? Did they identify it as part of her fleet? Or was it wiped after being brought into the Ithyca system? Is it still identifiable as the same ship, or is the design non-descript enough that the Impies won't make the connection? Edited March 25 by Lysimachus Xin Ceithan, Mazer Rackham, Necronaut and 1 other 1 1 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/113/#findComment-6162466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 7 minutes ago, Xin Ceithan said: Do we have any idea if and to what extent the Mandeville points are guarded in this system ( and at the target’s side )? I mean the Dredge slipped in, the Red Wolves did and we shipped out Blackout from Brimstone? That doesn’t exactly sound like there is full blockade around it ?! That and the Mandeville "points" would actually be points on the surface of a sphere surrounding the system's star, so we're talking about a potentially massive volume of space to cover, depending upon the mass of the stellar object. BadgersinHills, Mazer Rackham, Lysimachus and 2 others 1 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/113/#findComment-6162467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 And of course, now we're in the queue to leave, it would look pretty sus if we try to duck out the back way... Necronaut, Xin Ceithan, BadgersinHills and 2 others 3 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/113/#findComment-6162468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 What? No it wouldn't. I just realized I left the curling iron plugged in. Need to go back home before the house burns down, is all. Mazer Rackham, BadgersinHills, Xin Ceithan and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/113/#findComment-6162473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 29 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: Question: presumably the Tigress brought the Razor in at the same time as the rest of her fleet (I'm assuming relatively recently?) You only know the Razor was acquired recently. I did allude to it IC, but yes, it has clean ID. 29 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: Edit edit: Do we know of another system that is in a vaguely similar direction to Kataris, and a similar distance away? We could be taking something there and then coming back? (Lone escorts are often used as courier vessels, whether it's for Tigress, Nydax, or someone else entirely) This is a nav question you should reasonably know the answer to....but dies anyone have Navigation (Stellar)? Sounds like a good opportunity to use it... 17 minutes ago, BadgersinHills said: @Mazer Rackham Do I need to be a signatory of a compact to benefit from it? Not too familiar with those rules. Yes. 9 minutes ago, Necronaut said: Also what does our ident currently show us as being called? I know we are calling the ship Razor's Edge amongst ourselves, but was the ship given a completely clean set of idents and whatnot, as in a blank slate? This was alluded to in the IC. What you call her now is completely up to you. Feel free to invent something non-threatening. 'Die All Imperial Bastards' might be a bit much, perchance. 9 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: Her primary ship is that, correct, but I dont think they were pretending to be an Arbites fleet? Certainly not. The Argent Requiem was built for the Arbites as a deep-range assault and pirating hunting vessel, but it is not a SM SC. It lacks the armour and some of the facilities, but it makes up for that with more speed, superior augurs and the retention of Bombardment Cannons. Because nothing says 'shut your foul mouth, rebel scum' like a magma-bomb warhead that could sink a continent. 9 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: Did they identify it as part of her fleet? Or was it wiped after being brought into the Ithyca system? Is it still identifiable as the same ship, or is the design non-descript enough that the Impies won't make the connection? All that was done was the plates were cleaned. Whatever it did before, any actions or engagements....well, better hope none of the Imperial ships have met her in battle before, eh? The fact she's converted her torps to landing bays is quite distinctive, yet it is also disarming. What I would also say is that you can choose what colour her hull is. It will have been repainted from her previous fleet colour, so whatever you want to help 'mask' you a bit. 4 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: And of course, now we're in the queue to leave, it would look pretty sus if we try to duck out the back way... Why do you think I parked you here....the game is afoot! Necronaut, Xin Ceithan, BadgersinHills and 1 other 1 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/113/#findComment-6162475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojake Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 2 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said: What I would also say is that you can choose what colour her hull is. It will have been repainted from her previous fleet colour, so whatever you want to help 'mask' you a bit. Red! No, wait - er - crimson... and black? Xin Ceithan, Mazer Rackham, Lysimachus and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/113/#findComment-6162478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 (edited) Done! (And you have been...?) Edited March 25 by Mazer Rackham Xin Ceithan, BadgersinHills and Lysimachus 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/113/#findComment-6162479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgersinHills Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 9 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: Her primary ship is that, correct, but I dont think they were pretending to be an Arbites fleet? Our ship is just an Iconoclast Destroyer (basic BFG Chaos Escort). But I meant was, what did they say the Razor was? Did they identify it as part of her fleet? Or was it wiped after being brought into the Ithyca system? Is it still identifiable as the same ship, or is the design non-descript enough that the Impies won't make the connection? Ah thanks, got those confused. Xin Ceithan, Mazer Rackham and Lysimachus 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/113/#findComment-6162486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgersinHills Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 13 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said: Yes. Ah, should have kept that in mind. No worries though, Mourn will do the mission for the love of the game. Mazer Rackham, Xin Ceithan and Mojake 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/113/#findComment-6162487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 1 minute ago, BadgersinHills said: Ah, should have kept that in mind. No worries though, Mourn will do the mission for the love of the game. If you want to sign into it now, we can do that. BadgersinHills 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/113/#findComment-6162488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 I'd suggest the colours of a non-local, but not totally unknown, Navy Battlefleet? (I know this ship won't be able to pretend it's actual IN, but don't the Merchant Fleets /Chartist Captains often paint their ships to match the colours of their local Battlefleet?) Anyway, something non-threatening... Xin Ceithan and BadgersinHills 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/113/#findComment-6162489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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