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  1. Hey all! Welcome to my shiny new thread. Some of you will know me from my 30k Iron Warriors and Dornian Heresy White Scars threads that I’ve had up here over the years, among other things. In the last year I’ve moved across the country and, unfortunately, there wasn’t a lot of room to bring those projects with me! A crying shame, I know. However, that has left me with a clean slate to start a new force! No more half-finished projects staring at me, begging to be completed. At least not for a while. So, I’ve decided to go ahead with an army I’ve wanted to put together for years - the better part of a decade, actually. Black Legion! Some of you may faintly recall my Fifteen Fangs warband, which I built way back in 2018, when Kill Team first came out. That was my first foray into CSM, but, after finishing the conversions, the project never went anywhere. Until now! When visiting home a couple months back the models caught my eye and I got inspired to take them and expand them into a full Black Legion force. But more on that later. Today my offering is the one and only, the unmistakeable, Warmaster of Chaos: Abaddon, the Despoiler. Abaddon has been my favourite character in the setting for a long while now - ever since I first got my teenage mitts on ADB’s Talon of Horus, an experience I’m sure a lot of you can agree with. Needless to say - other characters from the book will be cropping up here and there in this thread. Over the last few weeks I’ve chipped away at the big guy, and finally finished him up today! He was an absolute blast to paint, and a really excellent model all around. A few notes about creative decisions: • I decided I wanted that infamous red underglow, and it was the first part of the model I’d say was in anyway completed. Looking at it reminded me of the iconic Horus V the Emperor painting, so I decided to paint that fallen marine on the base as a Blood Angels Sanguinary Guard - with an mind towards making the broken wing statue on the base appear as though it was the wing from said Sanguinary Guard’s jump-pack. I wanted Abaddon, clad in black and gold terminator armour, wielding his father’s talon, and stood over a winged, golden-armoured warrior to look the spitting image of his own father - a sort of meta life-imitates-art take, with an ironic twist in that Abaddon probably would hate to know how similar he appears to Horus in this moment I have captured him in. • Left the cape off - I wanted that classic Abaddon silhouette that alluded to his old mini. Cool as the cape looks, it doesn’t feel like Abaddon to me. Plus it obscures some cool details to be found on the back! • Trophy rack - I had so much fun painting up some of my friend’s armies as trophies mounted on Abaddon’s spike rack. We have an Ultramarines lieutenant as played by my friend James, and my friend Raj’s green-and-black Tyranids. I’ve purposefully left the left-most skull (which has Space Marine Bionics attached to it) partially unpainted, so I can add another space marine faction if desired. Coming up - I’ve got plans for a terminator retinue for Abaddon, with a member representing each of the chaos gods. I also have a squad of possessed, and the aforementioned Fifteen fangs kill team, which I will re-photograph to be added to this thread later on. And that’s all for today folks! Cheers for reading, stick around if you wanna see more! If you want more frequent updates, my Instagram, @jallens40k, gets WIP photos as often as I work on my minis. Laters!
  2. Since we seems to lake a thread about discussing how to make our traitor members of Loyalist Legions or loyalists members of Traitor Legions. There are lots of other threads where the discussion have appeared but more as a derailing or side discussions. So here we have a thread for explicit talking about how to make you Traitor Ultramarines stand out from their Loyalist brothers, or your Loyalist Night Lords form their traitors and cowards kin on the other side. And how to explain their existance. With that said, here are links to some of the threads where this discussion have happened before: Will poste some of the thoughts and suggestions from those threads here later.
  3. Here is my idea on how many Astartes are in each Traitor group and other facts about them Emperor's Children - 360k -More blessed CSM than the Word Bearers Iron Warriors - 220k -2nd best at 'recruiting' new Marines and 2nd 'best' at losing them via attrition warfare, right behind the World Eaters Night Lords - 130k -2nd Legion with the most Marines with their Primarch's geneseed, behind the Alpha Legion World Eaters - 160k -The Traitor Legion with the easiest means to recruit new members as shown in Guymer's Angron novel. Logistics be damned -The Legion with the fewest Marines that have their Primarch's geneseed Death Guard - 470k -Aggressive recruiting allows their number to swell past their heights during the Heresy Thousand Sons - 18k Sorcerers and 90k Rubrics -Able to raise dead Marines, from their own and enemy Astartes, into Rubrics though quality will differ Black Legion - 2 Million -Right behind the World Eaters Word Bearers - 200k Alpha Legion - 1-5 Million Chaos Non-Affiliated Fallen - 17k Red Corsairs -10k -Does not include the many warbands that have pledged themselves to him, whether tempirarily or permanently. The vassals are Tens of thousands -Vast majority of Corsairs are former Loyalists Even with all those numbers, military experience, weapons and blessings the fractured nature of Chaos usually prevents the Traitors from utilizing it all before the Great Rift Even then, the Millions of Primaris Cannon Fodder Cawl unleashed is another reason why the Imperium managed to slow down their advance. Though most of the inexperienced Primaris died like flies early on they did held the line There are always near-endless Trillions of Guardsmen, Penal Conscripts, PDF and Frateris Zealots to throw at Chaos even with the Great Rift EDIT: -The Death Guard invaded Ultramar while the Iron Warriors invaded several of the most heavily defended subsectors WHILE fighting and killing each other during the War of Rust and Ruin! (Attrition warfare at its finest with many Traitor Titans dying) -Honsou came into the YEARLY Skull Harvest with 300 Marines. He came out with 5k Marines, 12k soldiers and a few ships. He kills 350 ULTRAMARINES, kills BILLIONS of Ultramar citizens and destroyed many Smurf ships!!! -ADB stated the Black Legion had TWO-HUNDRED-THOUSAND ASTARTES at the START of the 1st Black Crusade (BEFORE they assimilated some of the Legion Host which did have COMPARABLE NUMBERS!!!)
  4. Not talking about side games like Blackstone Fortress Wondering how many and which characters can be played on Tabletop for each Traitor Legion I find it odd that some Traitor Legions don't even have Playable Characters EDIT: Hopefully GW/BL would either turn Novel characters (Decimus or Lokk) into Tabletop or create original ones so that each Traitor Legion has several (at least 8) Special Characters
  5. From the album: CFH's Iron Warriors

    Current WIP status of my Rhinos. i have always felt that rhinos were not big enough. and this only got worse with the new CSM and Primaris marines, and truescale marines etc. its probably still to small, but this was simple enough. should be clear, its just the parts of the current rhino cut and placed on a tamiya M113 kit. plasticard and greenstuff to come.
  6. From the album: CFH's Iron Warriors

    Current WIP status of my Rhinos. i have always felt that rhinos were not big enough. and this only got worse with the new CSM and Primaris marines, and truescale marines etc. its probably still to small, but this was simple enough. should be clear, its just the parts of the current rhino cut and placed on a tamiya M113 kit. plasticard and greenstuff to come.
  7. From the album: CFH's Iron Warriors

    Current WIP status of my Rhinos. i have always felt that rhinos were not big enough. and this only got worse with the new CSM and Primaris marines, and truescale marines etc. its probably still to small, but this was simple enough. should be clear, its just the parts of the current rhino cut and placed on a tamiya M113 kit. plasticard and greenstuff to come. this is 1 and 2 of three rhinos i plan on for the time being.
  8. From the album: CFH's Iron Warriors

    Finally "finished" my 1st Legion Tactical Squad for my Iron Warriors.
  9. From the album: CFH's Iron Warriors

    Finally "finished" my 1st Legion Tactical Squad for my Iron Warriors.
  10. From the album: CFH's Iron Warriors

    Finally "finished" my 1st Legion Tactical Squad for my Iron Warriors.
  11. From the album: CFH's Iron Warriors

    Finally "finished" my 1st Legion Tactical Squad for my Iron Warriors.
  12. From the album: CFH's Iron Warriors

    WIP of my Iron Warriors. it's been a long couple of months.
  13. From the album: CFH's Iron Warriors

    WIP of my Iron Warriors. it's been a long couple of months.
  14. From the album: CFH's Iron Warriors

    WIP of my Iron Warriors. it's been a long couple of months.
  15. From the album: CFH's Iron Warriors

    WIP of my Iron Warriors. it's been a long couple of months.
  16. From the album: CFH's Iron Warriors

    WIP of my Iron Warriors. it's been a long couple of months.
  17. From the album: The Black Hand of Melanchthon

    My first model assembled for my 30k Night Lords force
  18. Zuvassin

    First Units

    From the album: The Black Hand of Melanchthon

    First three units for my new Night Lords 30k army
  19. From the album: CFH's Iron Warriors

    At last an Update! Amongst my many projects lately, has been a big push to get a proper army battle ready for games with the local HH:AOD:30K group. My Land Raider Achilles! I look forward to how Aggravating this tank may very well prove to be for the enemy! Also, I obviously had some camera focus issues. my Cellphone no longer recognizes that it has a camera... so I had to use my son's Amazon Fire tablet. It is a handy device, but it's camera is far from ideal
  20. From the album: CFH's Iron Warriors

    At last an Update! Amongst my many projects lately, has been a big push to get a proper army battle ready for games with the local HH:AOD:30K group. The lead tank from the Vindicator squadron. I figured having a marine looking out of the hatch and some extra communication gear would represent that well enough (other than with paint, which will be sussed out in the near future. Also, I obviously had some camera focus issues. my Cellphone no longer recognizes that it has a camera... so I had to use my son's Amazon Fire tablet. It is a handy device, but it's camera is far from ideal
  21. From the album: CFH's Iron Warriors

    At last an Update! Amongst my many projects lately, has been a big push to get a proper army battle ready for games with the local HH:AOD:30K group. My Spartan! Such a great tank! Also, I obviously had some camera focus issues. my Cellphone no longer recognizes that it has a camera... so I had to use my son's Amazon Fire tablet. It is a handy device, but it's camera is far from ideal
  22. From the album: CFH's Iron Warriors

    At last an Update! Amongst my many projects lately, has been a big push to get a proper army battle ready for games with the local HH:AOD:30K group. Forgive the shine on the Vindicator in the middle of the shot as I had only just primed it. Also, I obviously had some camera focus issues. my Cellphone no longer recognizes that it has a camera... so I had to use my son's Amazon Fire tablet. It is a handy device, but it's camera is far from ideal
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