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  1. So as previously mentioned in my other Thread, A friend very easily convinced me to make a 1000pt 10th edition army, with the upcoming release of the Dark Angles and my Love of the Ravenwing I set out to do something incredibly dumb, Will this army function competitively? No idea, Will it function at all? Heck if know, Will it make my friends face palm Harder that Picard? Absolutely! Quick disclosure again this is an almost 90% 3d printed project using files found and purchased online, I will not be sharing files, artists or locations due to legal reasons, those artists have been personally thanked and credited on their own respective pages. Here's the Abomination of a list created in Warhammers App: Knights Errant (1000 points) Space Marines Dark Angels Incursion (1000 points) Unforgiven Task Force CHARACTERS: Chaplain on Bike (90 points) • 1x Absolvor bolt pistol 1x Crozius arcanum 1x Twin bolt rifle • Enhancement: Stubborn Tenacity Sammael (130 points) • Warlord • 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Master-crafted plasma cannon 1x The Raven Sword 1x Twin storm bolter OTHER DATASHEETS: Outrider Squad (160 points) • 1x Outrider Sergeant • 1x Astartes chainsword 1x Heavy bolt pistol 1x Twin bolt rifle • 5x Outrider • 5x Astartes chainsword 5x Heavy bolt pistol 5x Twin bolt rifle Outrider Squad (80 points) • 1x Outrider Sergeant • 1x Astartes chainsword 1x Heavy bolt pistol 1x Twin bolt rifle • 2x Outrider • 2x Astartes chainsword 2x Heavy bolt pistol 2x Twin bolt rifle Outrider Squad (80 points) • 1x Outrider Sergeant • 1x Astartes chainsword 1x Heavy bolt pistol 1x Twin bolt rifle • 2x Outrider • 2x Astartes chainsword 2x Heavy bolt pistol 2x Twin bolt rifle Ravenwing Black Knights (90 points) • 1x Ravenwing Huntmaster • 1x Black Knight combat weapon 1x Bolt pistol 1x Plasma talon • 2x Ravenwing Black Knight • 2x Black Knight combat weapon 2x Bolt pistol 2x Plasma talon Ravenwing Black Knights (90 points) • 1x Ravenwing Huntmaster • 1x Black Knight combat weapon 1x Bolt pistol 1x Plasma talon • 2x Ravenwing Black Knight • 2x Black Knight combat weapon 2x Bolt pistol 2x Plasma talon Ravenwing Black Knights (90 points) • 1x Ravenwing Huntmaster • 1x Black Knight combat weapon 1x Bolt pistol 1x Plasma talon • 2x Ravenwing Black Knight • 2x Black Knight combat weapon 2x Bolt pistol 2x Plasma talon Ravenwing Command Squad (110 points) • 1x Ravenwing Champion • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Master-crafted power weapon 1x Plasma talon • 1x Ravenwing Apothecary • 1x Black Knight combat weapon 1x Bolt pistol 1x Plasma talon • 1x Ravenwing Ancient • 1x Black Knight combat weapon 1x Bolt pistol 1x Plasma talon ALLIED UNITS: Vindicare Assassin (80 points) • 1x Exitus pistol 1x Exitus rifle 1x Vindicare combat knife Exported with App Version: v1.10.1 (38), Data Version: v336 and now for the fun stuff: The failed leg will probably be replaced with a bionic leg file if I can track one down I like and by like I of course mean Free I currently have them armed with the spears from the Custodes because of the bolters on the end and to completely sell the Roving knights look i want to convey with this little force, so there is going to be a healthy use of Black Templar parts in the mix. until next time!
  2. This is my first proper thread since joining this forum. I am finally committed to playing 40k tabletop. So I spent the coin to buy models in preparation for 10th ED. I'll run down my two prospective armies: | Black Templars | Ever since I first heard about 40k, the Black Templars have been one of my favorite chapters. I may have liked others more at one time or another. For example, before I settled on BT I intended on building a Raven Guard, Crimson Fists, or Iron Hands army. But I always felt myself drawn back to the Templars, so I decided on them (also my brother is building a Blood Angels army, who I was also considering building and I wanted something different). Their aesthetic, their lore, the way they fight, everything about them screams a 40k that I adore. It represents something that other chapters don't provide me. Something distinctly older, something gothic, something unique. It helps my favorite Primarch is Rogal Dorn as well, the IF and their successors just appeal to me. I've bought most of these boxes fairly recently, and it's the army I intend to be my first to play a game of 10th ED when it releases. I also have a Predator kit on the way. I debated on getting that or a Rhino, but opted for the tank because I love it so much. Next | Word Bearers | This prospective army is much, much smaller right now. Just 5 CSM from a box of 10 I split with my brother and a box of Raptors. And this is probably where it will stay for now. I originally intended to build a Iron Warriors army, but settled on the WB after much thought. I am a loyalist first and foremost. But the Word Bearers have always been an interesting warband to me, and Lorgar an interesting character. Additionally, I really like their color scheme. This army will be painted, but priority is the BT. /// I will update this thread as I make progress, but it will probably be very infrequent. All tips and criticism welcome, I am extremely novice tabletop player, builder, and painter. I want to get better.
  3. NECRON UNIT OF THE WEEK SERIES Welcome to the Necron Unit of the Week series for 10th edition! Each week will see a different unit from the Codex, Imperial Armour, and Legends datasheets featured for discussion. The goal here is to discover and chronicle tactics for the featured unit so that new players and veterans alike can use this database to inform their strategies with the wider knowledge of the forum. The game of Warhammer 40,000 is ever changing though, and as the rules evolve throughout the edition everyone should feel free to return to older threads with the release of new FAQs/errata, changes in points values, information gathered from games played, and of course the Codex being released. These threads are also great places for newcomers to the Necrons to post their questions about tactics related to the featured units. Please note that the purpose of this series is not to lament what the current meta deems “ineffective”, or that another unit “does it better”. Those units will get their own threads. This week’s unit is: Necron Warriors Some points to ponder as we discuss the various uses of the Necron Warrior: What purpose do Warriors play in your army lists? Do you take 10 or 20 model units, and are they armed with Flayers or Reapers? Do you attach any characters to your unit(s)? What tactics do you employ to get the most out of the "Their Number is Legion" ability? Series Index
  4. EDIT: The full list of Thousand Sons datasheets can be found on warcom here: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/06/13/free-chaos-index-cards-let-the-galaxy-burn-with-rules-for-six-factions/ ------------------------------------------------------------- Faction Focus Discussion The Thousand Sons Faction Focus is up, with a preview of some of our rules - Finally! Use this topic for discussion the Datasheets that we've seen so far - Ahriman, Rubes and part of the Mutalith. What do you reckon? Faction Focus Thousand Sons Faction Rules Discussion
  5. Hi all, thought I would run this by the Astartes brains trust. I'm about to (finally) put together my Leviathan Sternguard, and have enough bits and base bodies to assemble them in ways other than the monopose/set weapon options of the kit. Two questions: First, as someone who's yet to get their hands on the new Codex, does giving the Sergeant a Power Weapon/Fist replace his boltrifle, or his close combat weapon? I've been caught out by that before. Second, who's been fielding these guys in their games of 10th, and if you have, did you field them with all boltrifles, all combiweapons, or a mix? I'm almost certainly going to assemble the squad with all of one, just for ease of dice-rolling, but am interested to know if the extra shots and better hit chance of the rifles is outperforming the wound shenanigans of the combiweapons. What's been putting in good work?
  6. So I’m new to the B&C blog feature, but thought I would use it to post the progress of my new Ultramarines army. I originally intended it to be a a Third Company army, but plans have changed, and I am now planning on building it as a 1st Company Strike Force.
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  16. I managed to get my first game of 10th Edition in on Weds night and thought I'd report back - there was a lot of on the fly learning going on, so I forgot to take photos from the start, and only remembered to get them well into the game. This was a 1500pt battle missions/temptest of war style game, we both picked random objectives. Mission - Supply drop - 3 objectives in no mans land, one dissappears in t4, the other in t5. Diagonal deployment. I don't remember the exact secondary objectives, so wont list them. Tyranids Hive Tyrant, lash whip+bs, venom cannon Parasite 20x termagants - fleshborers 20x termagants - devourers 10x horms 10x horms 5x barbgaunts 3x VRL's 3x venomthropes 3x zoanthropes 3x zoanthropes 3x raveners with thoracic weapons Screamer Killer Exocrine 160w Dark Angels Belial (w/knights) Vindicare assassin Judiciar - heavenfall blade (w/bladeguard) 10x hellblasters 6x aggressors with flamers 6x bladeguard 5x deathwing knights, master with flail 1x landspeeder hailstrike 3x eradicators 113w DA won the roll off for T1 and went first. DA T1 Remarkably little died, maybe 10-12 gants, a few gaunts. They played devastator doctrine for advance and shoot, so the aggressors sprinted 10" towards the objective on the top right, one stepping onto it, and then flamed one unit of gaunts T1, killing 9/10. Hailstrike fired the grenades into the gaunts and the rest into the screamer, doing a couple of wounds to the screamer and thankfully rolling low on the shots to the gants, despite getting +8 shots for the 20 of them - maybe 8 died. The venomthropes had a lot to do with this, giving the gaunts stealth and cover for a 4+ save at -1 to hit. Las-fusils shot the screamer, doing loads of damage, they're somehow D6 damage this time instead of the 3 they were before! Screamer is on 6w. DA achieve both secondaries, one of which was hold most of the no mans land objectives, and hold the one nominated by me. Nid T1 In my command phase I endless swarm the mauled hormagaunt unit bringing 6 back to life, then use it a second time with my tyrant on the termagant units , restoring 4 to one and 5 to another. As units were above half strength, no battleshock tests. Screamer moved forwards towards the aggressors, who overwatch it, lots of hits, 3/4 wounds with twin linked, no damage. Screamer shoots them and kills one, then charges in and bounces off with shocking rolling, killing one, before getting punched for 4W in return - I'm crucially holding the objective though vs the one aggressor on it. Exocrine shoots the eradicators and rolls a one, killing one. devilgants shoot them putting a wound through. I give up and charge them with the horms who do some damage and drag one down, however a couple get punched to death in return. I still hold that objective. Zoans shoot the bladeguard, killing maybe 1. VRL's get onto the middle objective, taking it, but dont charge due to the players whose turn it isnt having the advantage on the charge. I get the secondary for taking an objective from the opponent and one other. DAT2 Belial appears behind my exocrine, who overwatches and doesnt do anything. Belial fails the charge into the exocrine, needing a 10 for terrain. Eradicator falls back and the hellblasters shoot the horms, wiping them. Bladeguard charge the VRL's, who strike first and do nothing, getting killed in return.Aggressors punch the screamer to death (twin linked). Speeder moves onto central objective and shoots the tyrant and gaunts. NidT2 I drew defend stronghold and somthing else, so had to hold my home objective v belial. I used shadown in the warp to force break tests, and absolutely everything passed with marines Ld6+. pointless exercise. Heal the terms back to full with endless horde strat and moved the borergaunts onto my home objective to tie up belial, hopefully for the game. Zoans move forwards and opponent uses overwatch to put the lasfusils into them,killing one. This allows me to move my horms onto the objective held by the aggressors, denying it to them. zoans and gaunts put shots into bladeguard reducing them to one guy + judicar. Tyrant multicharges bladeguard and speeder, murdering both bladeguard and judiciar, despite them striking first (T10, 2+, 4++, 4+++). Exocrine kills the last eradicator. DAT3 Belial move toward the exocrine, ignoring the gaunts, who scuttle towards him to try and block the charge, but also getting most on the objective, staying within 6" of zoans and venoms for the boosts. Belial gets the charge and poor rolling sees only 4 wounds knocked off the exo. Aggressors flame then punch the horms, taking back the top left marker. hellblasters pop the right hand zoans. no primaries for DA. Nid T3 Exo falls back to thwart belial. Gants shuffle more onto objective to stop them from toeing onto it and shoot belial, doing nothing. barbs shoot belial, doing nothing. devilgants shoot hellblasters, amazingly killing 4. With all my bad luck with zoan shooting, I forget about the blast warp blast and go straight for lance, with CP rerolls to protect me. Left hand zoans lance the aggressors, hitting, wounding, killing. The D3 shot blast is a trap, as you might just roll a 1 anyway, so 1/3 time you're better off with the better shot, even moreso against 3+ wound targets. Reveners pop up on the bottom right objective to hold it, out of LOS of the hellblasters. Start of DA T4 - the alpha objective in the top left has been removed from no mans land. After this photo, Belial moved towards the exocrine who opten to overwatch. To counter all my bad luck in this game so far, I rolled a 6 on the attacks, for 9 shots, then amazingly this: From 9 shots, I rolled 5 6's, garnering an additional 5 hits. So 10 exocrine hits on belials knight unit, which was enough to wipe the remaining 2 and the grandmaster. That was pretty much game over right there. My opponent didnt have that much to threaten me, and no objective positioning, while I was all over the board. Mop up time. Evrything shoots the hellblasters and the raveners charge in finishing them off. Overall this was a fun game, with a lot of swings, however we spent a lot of time checking and double checking rules. This will get better hopefully as we get more used to the game. I'm not 100% sure it's less complex than 9th - each unit now has a bespoke rule that triggers all the time, as opposed to a set of universal special rules that are easy to remember. Some of the time consuming decision making still exists, like bladeguard having to choose whether to attack or defend, and then additional reactions like overwatch, while cool, slow the game down when you have to measure who is in range of what etc. It works in heresy as heresy is a faster system with pass/fail for saves, and no modifiers. In terms of unit performance, this is what I think: Hive Tyrant, lash whip+bs, venom cannon - B+ - Venom cannon is pointless in this edition, ill go full melee next time. The free strat per turn is amazing. Parasite - D too weak, too slow, cant join gargoyles, sub par melee. Should be 50pts or so. 20x termagants - fleshborers - B- Solid unit, output ws poor, but kept in the game with strats and held them objectives 20x termagants - devourers - B+ decent output, did some good damage, took up a lot of space. Better with a tervigon to proc lethal hits. 10x horms - A - cheap, cheerful, fast, did the job of dropping OC20 onto objectives, surprisingly good in melee with 30 attacks per 10. 10x horms - as above 5x barbgaunts - C - poor positioning from me meant they couldn't hit the opposing moving units. Considering the points they cost, I'll give them a C for performance, but a B+ for being 5pts per wound, and 10W and putting out average 18 shots. 3x VRL's - C - in this matchup. Good for a speedbump but not much else, they can't break through power armour. 3x venomthropes B - flat -1 to hit on everything is great, however they have zero damage output of their own. 70pts is a tricky investment. definitely if you're running more monsters, as the -1 will hurt lot shot stronger weapons more, also a good pick for infantry for the +1 save. 3x zoanthropes -C+ Undecided. The blast version was underhwhelming, the lance was ok, but on BS3+. The battleshock thing never came up nd is too close range to ever have an impact on zoans, who want to be at 24" range. 3x zoanthropes 3x raveners with thoracic weapons - A- great unit for the points - same cost and identical statline to VRL's however with deepstrike and twin linked instead of stealth and infiltrate. Deepstrike allows stealing of late game objectives, and twin linked is worth it's weight in gold with the increased T across the board. Screamer Killer - D+ - T10 and 3D is about the only great thing about this. It seems overshadowed by carnifexes, who despite having 2D are...1/3 cheaper at 120pts. I think 3 carnis are better than 2 screamers, and they get the blistering assault rule, and you can add OOE. Exocrine B+ - Blast means it cant shoot in combat, gun is still swingy from 4 - 9 shots (100% variation) At 135pts though, this is a good option, and T10 to boot, so overall a solid pick. Tyranids overall Adapations: The 3 'options' to privide to nids at the start (sustained, lethal on vehicles or precision hits) is silly, and only sustained hits to me is a good choice, outside of playing knights, which is never fun anyway. Precision is dumb as you'll put the odd single shot into a character, that likely wont kill them. Maaaaybe it'll have some use against stuff with really weak characters in...tough units? I haven't read all the indexes yet, but I don't see any characters so far that buff their units to such an extent that you need to kill them asap - in this game, perhaps the judicar, which would have stripped FF from the bladeguard? In my opinion, 90% of the time you'll be taking sustained, it's just so good, as exemplified by the exocrine above. Shadow in the warp was poor, which you can realise just by reading the rule and looking at Ld stats in the game. My opponent did, however only just pass many of the rolls, so I think you'll need to bake a neurotyrant into every list if you want to have a hope of this having an effect - even then it just takes marines from a significantly above average chance to pass (Ld6), to a very above average (Ld7) chance to pass. I wouldn't even think about this, never mind building around it. A flat -Ld when within 12" would have been nice, thematic and useful.
  17. The release of the Indexes has introduced some changes in unit composition and minimums. Some of the armies I gathered in the past will have to go through a good face lifting in order to be able to be fielded under the new unit canons. I am no affected for the big Space Wolves faction of mine - sure a lot of stuff is probably not as it should be per the Index but I bet I have more than enough to rebalance and equilibrate some legal squads without necessity of investing again. It will not be the case for 3 other armies: A. Saim Hann Aeldari: This army was gathered more than 20 years ago and frankly as it has never been mounted or played I doubt it was legal even at the time. I have hoever to find a way to get my bunch of Guardians legals. This means Ebaying weapon platforms and/or converting Serpent Shield platforms in order to be able to line them (when they will be assemblied, which will hopefully happen in the Call-to-Arm Challenge 2023....) Ebaying will probably lead to 50-100 € depending on state and number of platforms (4 would be required out of which 2 Serpent shields). Say 100€ B. Death Watch: These chap have to be retooled so that my death watch vetaren squads are legals. They were built to fill a kind of Devastator role on the battlefield. As such I cannot keep on fielding 4 heavy weapons in a squad of 5. " units are tooled like that leading to the need to buy 2 additionnal Veteran boxes to get enough models to redistribute Heavy weapons or to get the critical size to field 4 per squad. 2 x 35 € C. AdMech: Skitarii squad special weapons´ allocation revision makes that I have to add more squad than expected in this project that is my 2023 New Year/New Army project. My current guies were designed to get: - Vanguards: 2 arc rifles - Rangers: 2 Transuranic arquebuses - (future Vanguards): 2 plasma stuff I will have to had an additional Skitarii box vs. what I initially planned 1 x 42.5 € (in excess of my planned buying list) Gran Total: 212.5€ Will I plan the procurment this year? Well probably not for DW, although being the rest of the army 100% it would be a pain not to do the little extra to complete it and getting something I could be able to field for casual games. But it will compete with my NY/NA project. What´s missing in this analysis? Well recalculating all point values and see if my current forces are still compatibles witht he revised Munitorum points so that they meet the required sizes... But this will be for another day
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